DNA LineagesAlexander Runciman
#1230, (say 1786 - bt 1831 - 1841)
| Possible father | Thomas Runciman (cir. Jul 1762 - bt 1818 - 1841); A Thomas was the witness to the baptisms for several of Alexander's children, but we do not know whether or not this Thomas was a tailor, or a hind |
| Possible mother | Jean Simpson (say 1760 - ) |
| WebIntro(Research) | Does a tailor become a hind? Are there two families here or one? With the differences in occupation I had doubts about my identification of these family connections, however "reasonable" they seemed when I first made them. My answer is now yes, as at least the son of a taylor does indeed become a hind/land steward. I had the answer all along, the death cert. of son John clearly shows his father (John married to Marion Weatherly) as a land steward. The tailor connection: 1783: Thomas Runciman and Jean Simpson marry in Haddington, Thomas a taylor, (recorded in the Dunbar OPR) 1784: John, son of Thomas and Jean (Simpson), taylor at Broxburn born/baptised This John is linked to the one married to May/Marion Weatherly through the latter 's marriage which gives John's father as Thomas, albeit with no occupations listed for either father or son. An earlier Thomas was a tailor, eg 1770 bap. Alexander s/o Thomas and Barbara Wallis - which latter surname features as a witness somewhere (yet to be refound) The farming connections (which may or may not indicate a different family despite the same wife's names): 1798: at Crawhill: a son George born to Thomas a hind. 1808 Isabella born to John and May (Weatherly) which may be the link crossing the boundary between tailor Thomas and hind Thomas. 1871 death of John son of John and Marion (Weatherly) in Edinburgh, father John shown as a land steward, deceased. 1885 Thomas (married to Mary Redpath) is linked because his death cert states his parents as Thomas, general labourer, and Jane, albeit without a surname for Jane. Alexander (married to Joan Manderson) is linked to farming Thomas by naming pattern of his children, and because a Thomas, hind was witness to several of his children's baptisms, at Mickle Pinkerton, which place features in several earlier entries in the Dunbar OPRs, eg birth of George 1734 to Thomas and Helen (Stevensone). Alexander, possibly this one, is linked as witness to marriage of John and Marion Weatherly at Oldhamstocks (banns Innerwick where father Thomas was cautioner for the groom) Once Alexander is linked in, this also links in the George married to Janet Darling, as their respective children Agnes and George are documented on their 1861 marriage cert as first cousins. With large gaps in the known children for George and Janet there was room to fit in a son Thomas, who has now been found (died Edinburgh 1877) to add naming pattern into the evidence for the prosecution Until I found the Crawhill connection I was coming to the conclusion that there were two families, but even with the Crawhill connection between Alexander's and John's families, it still isn't really "proof" that they are one family but could be indicative of two Johns, one son of the tailor, the other married to May Weatherly. |
| Birth | Alexander Runciman was born say 1786 ?Par. of Dunbar, Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. |
| Marriage | He married Joan Manderson 29 May 1810 Dunbar, Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland, Banns 18th Innerwick read: 'Innerwick May 18th booked names in order to marriage. Alexander Runciman in this parish and Joane (sp) (illegible) Manderson in the parish of Dunbar. Thomas Runciman for the bridegroom and William Manderson for the bride Cautioners. Proclaimed according to order and married.' |
| Death | Alexander Runciman died bt 1831 - 1841 ?Par. of Dunbar, Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. |
Family | Joan Manderson (cir. 1788 - bt 1851 - 1861) |
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| Charts | Runciman Lineage 1c: Alexander & Janet (HENDRIE) RUNCIMAN of Dunbar, ELN |
| Last Edited | 16 Apr 2010 |
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